WEBVTT 00:00:00.001 --> 00:00:04.140 Hello and welcome to Python Bytes, where we deliver Python news and headlines directly to 00:00:04.140 --> 00:00:11.080 your earbuds. This is episode 349, recorded August 21st, 2023. And I am Brian Okken. 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:12.200 And I'm Michael Kennedy. 00:00:12.200 --> 00:00:19.680 And we have a lot of exciting stuff to cover this week. But before we do, I'd like to thank 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:26.900 our Patreon supporters and ourselves for keeping this thing going, even without sponsors. But 00:00:26.900 --> 00:00:33.880 if you or your company would like to sponsor Python Bytes, just talk to us. So anyway, 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:36.580 Michael, do you want to kick us off with the first story? 00:00:36.580 --> 00:00:41.640 Let's kick it off. Let's kick it off with some open source that's not exactly Python. But 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:46.380 when I talked about this on Mastodon, you know what? Mastodon hasn't even changed its name 00:00:46.380 --> 00:00:51.680 this week. So that's pretty cool. I talked about a Mastodon. There seemed to be quite a bit of 00:00:51.680 --> 00:00:56.140 excitement and interest in this. So I figured, you know what? Let's make this a topic for Python 00:00:56.140 --> 00:01:01.000 Bytes. Because there's two cool open source things. So surely you've heard of Instapaper. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:07.720 That's the OG. I want to read something later without ads, without distractions. You know, 00:01:07.720 --> 00:01:13.640 a lot of times it's not even ads. It's just like, wow, the fonts are so small on this website or the 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:15.840 layout is so bad, you know? 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:17.640 Yeah, I kind of forgot about Instapaper. 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.760 Yeah. Yeah. Instapaper was the OG, right? Yeah. And then Pocket is probably the most 00:01:22.980 --> 00:01:28.040 well-known version of that. And, you know, Pocket's kind of cool. It was either, I believe it was 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:33.600 acquired by, not created by Mozilla, but, you know, supporting Pocket kind of supports Mozilla, 00:01:33.600 --> 00:01:38.300 which kind of supports Firefox, which is good. But Google mostly supports Firefox. So there's that. 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:52.040 So Pocket's pretty good, but there's this new project, let's say new to Michael, called Omnivore. And it is the free open source read it later app for serious readers. 00:01:52.280 --> 00:02:19.620 Okay. Okay. So this thing is super, super nice. The integrations with, at least I've only tested it on iOS, but the integration with iOS are incredible. So it's really easy to go from something like reader, right? Reader, which I've talked about before in the RSS world. But, you know, you pick your RSS reader of choice, go through your articles, you hit share and boom, it just goes straight into Omnivore, which is pretty cool. 00:02:19.780 --> 00:02:49.000 And then it has a really nice way to like categorize tag, all that kind of stuff, and then read it. So Brett Cannon, when I posted this, asked like, well, how do you find it compared to like Pocket and other stuff? Does it strip out too much, too many things? Hynek jumped in and said, oh, this is way better. It seems to err a little bit on the side and leaving potentially a little bit too much stuff in, but at the same time, not moving quotes or code sections or things like that. So really, really nice. It's, it's distraction free. 00:02:49.280 --> 00:03:02.000 So if you're privacy focused, privacy focused, open source, you can even self host it if you'd like. So for some reason you want, you're like, I'm going to read stuff and I want to make sure that it's completely private, then you can set it up and run it on your own. 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:03.400 Oh, that's, that's pretty cool. 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:04.360 That's pretty cool. Right. 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:04.740 Yeah. 00:03:04.940 --> 00:03:22.520 And one other thing that's quite neat about it. Let me kind of pull through here a bit. So one of the things you can do, I don't know if it even shows it, but it obviously syncs where you, you've read. So you can go down and like, if you've read 23% into an article, like a long, you know, 30 minute read time article. 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:39.700 And you switch to another device or to the web, it'll say, you know, here's how far you are resume from there. The other thing it does is it has text to speech, which, you know, that's, it sounds like a robot reading to you sometime. But they have a, it's like a high end text to speech option where there's not very many voices to choose from. 00:03:39.700 --> 00:03:42.940 But it sounds almost like a person reading the articles to you. 00:03:42.940 --> 00:03:43.580 Oh, wow. 00:03:43.580 --> 00:03:59.860 And so that is, that's super nice. And it'll show you, you can have it like highlight the words as you, as it's reading along. And so if you, you got an article to read, but really also got the yard to mow, you know, seriously, put it in the background and just go. It's actually, actually super, super neat. 00:04:00.320 --> 00:04:09.620 And what else I think that's probably it. There's, you can take highlights and stuff as you would expect, but it's really good for, you know, when you've got to do a lot of research on a project. 00:04:09.620 --> 00:04:17.500 It's, I think it's really good for us. Honestly, we read a lot of articles and you want to take notes, you know, highlight a section, add a note about why that's relevant and stuff. 00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:27.020 So when we go back to one of these long articles and we're like, Hey, I want to tell Brian about it or vice versa. You're like, what was the part of this that actually stood out here? It is, you know, you just bump through it. So really, really neat. 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:38.080 And then it said, you can also sync it with other stuff like your second brain things. I'm like, wait, what is it talking about? It says you can connect it to things like log sec. 00:04:38.080 --> 00:04:45.580 Log sec is another open source thing. That's kind of like notion, but running locally, I think runs locally. 00:04:45.580 --> 00:04:52.180 Anyway, so here's something else that I discovered along the way. That's also pretty excellent. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:05:04.480 So you can do like whiteboards with like YouTube videos that connect over to different parts and like these sort of, it's kind of funky, but I haven't used that much, but omnivore strong recommendation for this. 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:06.720 People should definitely, definitely check it out. 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:13.420 Oh, that's pretty cool. I would also, I was thinking about that text to speech thing. I would have loved that when I was in college and I had to read a bunch of junk. 00:05:13.420 --> 00:05:14.080 Oh gosh, I know. 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.460 And I'm on the bus or something. It would have been great. 00:05:16.460 --> 00:05:25.340 Yeah. Or, you know, you're in a car, but you, at least for me, I can't really read in the car. I can read a little bit, but then I'm like, you know, just one wrong turn or one bump. 00:05:25.340 --> 00:05:28.200 And I'm like, you know what? Kind of woozy. I don't want to read in the car anymore. 00:05:28.540 --> 00:05:34.800 But this you could totally do. I'm, I'm, I'm a big fan. I've started reading a lot more in the last week since I've been playing with this. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:36.380 Nice. Okay, cool. 00:05:36.380 --> 00:05:42.340 Yeah. And Pat, Pat on the audience points out that edge, the browser has good voices when you read aloud. 00:05:42.340 --> 00:05:43.800 So pretty cool. 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:44.360 What's that? 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:45.700 I think it's some kind of browser. 00:05:45.700 --> 00:05:46.080 Okay. 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:53.180 Just kidding. You know, it's Chromium. If you say the word browser and it's not Firefox, it's really just Chromium. 00:05:54.400 --> 00:05:56.880 Yeah. Isn't, isn't Vivaldi based on Chromium? 00:05:56.880 --> 00:05:59.400 Yeah, Vivaldi is. Brave is. They all are, yeah. 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:01.540 Well, Firefox isn't, is it? Or is it? 00:06:01.540 --> 00:06:04.880 No, but Firefox is the standout. It's the holdout. 00:06:04.880 --> 00:06:08.360 Which, which is like the main reason I love them. 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:15.780 So what I kind of is, is Google like supporting them so that they don't look like a monopoly just to make sure that. 00:06:15.780 --> 00:06:17.060 That's a pretty strong theory, isn't it? 00:06:17.060 --> 00:06:17.460 Yeah. 00:06:17.460 --> 00:06:19.880 I mean, I'm not saying that, but you said that. 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:21.420 Anyway. 00:06:21.420 --> 00:06:29.440 I think 80 to 90% of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google, which I think also leads to a little bit of perverse incentives, right? 00:06:29.440 --> 00:06:35.120 Like Firefox would be better if it could be more assertive in ad blocking and more assertive in privacy. 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.140 I know it kind of has it, but not really. 00:06:37.140 --> 00:06:44.740 Like it could go way more in like Vivaldi or Brave does, except it's almost entirely single customer is an ad company. 00:06:45.400 --> 00:06:51.460 So yeah, how much, yeah, it's, it's a little, it's a little weird set up, but it does keep Firefox alive. 00:06:51.460 --> 00:06:53.980 So there's that over to you. 00:06:53.980 --> 00:06:54.380 What's next? 00:06:54.380 --> 00:06:59.020 Well, I'd like to talk about Django a little bit and actually people learning about Django. 00:06:59.020 --> 00:07:04.440 So I learned about this place called Django, not Django, not dot space. 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:06.660 It's where contributors launch. 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:11.780 So kind of a fun, kind of a fun drop or homepage. 00:07:11.780 --> 00:07:17.180 But I mean, if you click on anything, you go to go to just like a docs thing. 00:07:17.180 --> 00:07:19.180 But so the, but that's all right. 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:22.640 The Django not program is kind of neat. 00:07:22.640 --> 00:07:27.980 It's a program to help people learn Django, like really dig into it. 00:07:27.980 --> 00:07:34.180 So it's a, it says this program places an emphasis on group learning, sustainability, and longevity. 00:07:34.180 --> 00:07:45.720 Djangonauts are members of the community who wish to level up their current Django code contribute contributions and potentially take on leadership roles in Django in the future. 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.060 So this is pretty cool. 00:07:47.060 --> 00:07:54.280 It's a self-paced, semi-structured learning environment with group mentoring, and it's in three month chunks. 00:07:54.980 --> 00:08:08.160 So, and they have like different cohorts and then there's like, there's like different documentation on if you want to be a Django not, if you want to be a navigator, which is people leading other Djangonauts, and then a captain and stuff like that. 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:14.840 And this is actually just kind of a neat, I'd love to talk to somebody that has been involved in this, or maybe it's new. 00:08:14.840 --> 00:08:15.320 I'm not sure. 00:08:15.320 --> 00:08:18.980 It's a, it doesn't look like it's been around for much for very long. 00:08:18.980 --> 00:08:24.540 So I'm not sure if they already have cohorts gone through or not, but I'd love to hear more about how it's going. 00:08:24.540 --> 00:08:34.340 And because it's kind of a model for an open source project seems neat of let the people that kind of want to get more involved, but really don't know what to do or how to get further. 00:08:34.340 --> 00:08:36.520 Maybe like having a guided thing. 00:08:36.520 --> 00:08:37.360 That's awesome. 00:08:37.740 --> 00:08:43.920 So the other thing, one of the things I think that's really cool about this is the small group setting. 00:08:43.920 --> 00:08:51.540 So this is a said cohorts are no more than four Djangonauts per one navigator and no more than eight Djangonauts in a group. 00:08:51.680 --> 00:08:57.080 So you might have like two navigators per group, which is kind of neat, three months. 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:04.360 And then one of the things that they have access to a private discord server and then programs receive support from captains. 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.040 So I'm not, I haven't dug in too much. 00:09:06.040 --> 00:09:07.220 I'm not sure what a captain does. 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:08.900 They help. 00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:13.200 Oh, the captains help organize the program and reduce the admin burden of navigators. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:13.800 Neat. 00:09:13.800 --> 00:09:19.840 One of the goals here is of course to do peer mentoring and to get people leveled up a lot. 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:37.500 But one of the things that I think is really cool here is even if you, if you think you sign on, I can't find words in the docs right here, but it somewhere it said, basically you sign up, you think you're going to do it, but life happens and you need to not work on it so much. 00:09:37.500 --> 00:09:38.240 Do that. 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:39.440 I mean, that's more important. 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:46.340 So I love the humanity in there of saying, you know, personal health is always above things like this. 00:09:46.340 --> 00:09:47.320 So it's neat. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.940 Django does community like no other way, web framework, right? 00:09:51.940 --> 00:09:52.280 Yeah. 00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:54.840 I mean, seriously, this is a fantastic idea. 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:55.340 Yeah. 00:09:55.340 --> 00:09:56.320 I think it's pretty cool. 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:02.260 The, the welcome summary, welcome in summary for the Django is pretty cool. 00:10:02.260 --> 00:10:04.420 Oh, here, here it is. 00:10:04.420 --> 00:10:08.640 The program will have a focus on sustainability and longevity. 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:13.740 Remember that while we want you to be successful, your health and happiness comes above all else. 00:10:13.820 --> 00:10:14.500 I just love it. 00:10:14.500 --> 00:10:16.040 It seems like a cool program. 00:10:16.040 --> 00:10:16.160 Yeah, that's cool. 00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:16.700 So. 00:10:16.700 --> 00:10:20.360 This is great. 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.100 So a comment from the chat. 00:10:23.100 --> 00:10:26.060 Kids, these kids today have it so easy. 00:10:26.060 --> 00:10:29.100 This makes open source contributions look like a cruise. 00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:34.100 I think that we, we just need to, we need to make it easier for the next generation to come 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:35.180 in and help take over. 00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:36.440 So I think it's great. 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:37.060 Yeah. 00:10:37.060 --> 00:10:39.720 I used to have to do my pull requests uphill both ways. 00:10:40.780 --> 00:10:44.120 I used to have to mail zip files to people. 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:47.220 Exactly. 00:10:47.220 --> 00:10:48.440 Anyway. 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:49.800 Get all sneaker net. 00:10:49.800 --> 00:10:52.020 So, all right. 00:10:52.020 --> 00:10:52.300 Yeah. 00:10:52.300 --> 00:10:55.520 This is a great, this is a great thing for people to sign up to. 00:10:55.520 --> 00:10:57.160 And I guess presumably you just go there. 00:10:57.160 --> 00:11:00.420 It tells you how to sign up and register to possibly be part of it. 00:11:00.420 --> 00:11:00.900 Yeah. 00:11:00.900 --> 00:11:03.460 So let's see if I click sign up it. 00:11:03.460 --> 00:11:04.040 Oh yeah. 00:11:04.040 --> 00:11:05.400 It takes me to a signup form. 00:11:05.400 --> 00:11:06.420 You fill out your. 00:11:06.420 --> 00:11:09.500 Oh, you can even sign up as a navigator or a captain if you want to help out. 00:11:09.560 --> 00:11:09.720 Yeah. 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:10.040 That's cool. 00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:10.900 Or an other. 00:11:10.900 --> 00:11:13.540 I want to try to sign up as a cheerleader. 00:11:13.540 --> 00:11:14.540 You can't label me, man. 00:11:14.540 --> 00:11:15.320 You can't label me. 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:16.500 I'm just going to be here. 00:11:16.500 --> 00:11:17.560 Other. 00:11:17.560 --> 00:11:19.000 But you have to label yourself. 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.960 If you, if you pick other, you have to pick something. 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.080 Yeah. 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:24.520 Yeah. 00:11:24.520 --> 00:11:26.380 All right. 00:11:26.380 --> 00:11:28.520 Well, Michael, I want to. 00:11:28.520 --> 00:11:31.280 This is on to another one here. 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:35.540 This one is from me, actually, something I created this week. 00:11:35.540 --> 00:11:38.360 I want to give a shout out to, because I think it's just going to help people a ton. 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:38.900 Okay. 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.780 And it's going to lead over to maybe some more Django stuff. 00:11:42.780 --> 00:11:44.660 And then later we'll come back to a Google form. 00:11:44.660 --> 00:11:46.040 Let's start with this. 00:11:46.040 --> 00:11:47.640 So I'll set the stage. 00:11:47.640 --> 00:11:52.800 So if you're working on a website, especially the web design aspect of a website. 00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:53.500 Okay. 00:11:53.760 --> 00:11:56.860 What you often do is you'll, you'll go over to your CSS file. 00:11:56.860 --> 00:11:58.060 You'll make some changes. 00:11:58.060 --> 00:11:59.660 You'll have to reload your page. 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:00.180 Right. 00:12:00.180 --> 00:12:05.440 You'll go over to the browser controller or command R or F5, whatever your system does. 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:06.300 You'll reload it. 00:12:06.300 --> 00:12:06.880 You'll look at it. 00:12:06.880 --> 00:12:07.220 Okay. 00:12:07.220 --> 00:12:07.720 Great. 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:09.460 Maybe sometimes you need it on mobile. 00:12:09.460 --> 00:12:16.560 So you'll have like a, one of those device, you know, sort of device sized changers for your browser. 00:12:16.560 --> 00:12:21.700 Or you could open up a real, you know, real iPhone or an iPhone simulator pointed at it. 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:23.300 Maybe a both of those side by side. 00:12:23.300 --> 00:12:25.060 So you've got to refresh one, refresh the other. 00:12:25.060 --> 00:12:26.160 Go back to your CSS. 00:12:26.540 --> 00:12:30.800 Now you go over to your HTML, you add some, classes, go back, see how it looks. 00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:31.260 Refresh it. 00:12:31.260 --> 00:12:31.480 Right. 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:39.040 What would be cool is if you could just have on a second monitor or on a large monitor off to the side, your browser. 00:12:39.040 --> 00:12:47.900 And as you type, when you hit save, regardless of whether you're editing CSS, JavaScript, HTML, whatever, the page just refreshes and shows you the new view. 00:12:47.900 --> 00:12:48.720 That'd be awesome. 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:48.900 Right? 00:12:48.900 --> 00:12:49.120 Yeah. 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:54.860 So I created a JavaScript script that you include only in development time. 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:55.700 So don't forget that. 00:12:55.880 --> 00:12:56.880 You put it at the top of your page. 00:12:56.880 --> 00:12:58.020 It does exactly that. 00:12:58.020 --> 00:13:01.000 So you can have an iOS simulator running. 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:06.200 You can have, you know, like brave, let's say running over there and then you're over to the side, you're working on your editor. 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.540 And as you hit save any file you want, right? 00:13:08.540 --> 00:13:14.240 HTML templates, whether it's a CSS, JavaScript, just reloads, even images. 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:14.880 Cool. 00:13:14.880 --> 00:13:15.860 Without touching it. 00:13:15.860 --> 00:13:16.380 Isn't that cool? 00:13:16.380 --> 00:13:16.900 Okay. 00:13:16.900 --> 00:13:20.200 So I've got, I've got my editor set up to just save all the time. 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.220 So it's going to save junk. 00:13:22.220 --> 00:13:25.180 Does it just like, what happens if I've got junk saved? 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:31.840 Well, so if you're typing in the HTML, it'll probably go a little bit wonky. 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:32.240 Okay. 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:32.720 Right. 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.960 If, if, if it's Python though, it depends on what you want to do. 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:44.920 So for me, what I found is that I'm not needing it to reload almost constantly when I'm doing logic of the website. 00:13:44.920 --> 00:13:45.120 Yeah. 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.280 Like sometimes I want it to, but not all the time. 00:13:47.280 --> 00:13:52.100 whereas when I'm actually messing with the CSS and I'm actually messing with. 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:52.400 Yeah. 00:13:52.400 --> 00:13:53.920 Then you want it to do it all the time. 00:13:53.920 --> 00:13:54.240 Yeah. 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:55.240 Then you want to do all the time. 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:55.480 Right. 00:13:55.520 --> 00:14:00.980 So the way it works, if you don't take any action is it will reload if the contents of the page change. 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:07.140 So if you don't restart your Python web setup, even as you type, it's not going to. 00:14:07.140 --> 00:14:07.640 Yeah. 00:14:07.640 --> 00:14:09.260 Presumably you wouldn't have it set up. 00:14:09.260 --> 00:14:12.620 Cause like every keystroke would restart it and that would be like pretty annoying. 00:14:12.620 --> 00:14:13.720 Yeah. 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:15.860 well, that's what I was worried about. 00:14:15.860 --> 00:14:16.640 Yeah. 00:14:16.640 --> 00:14:16.820 Yeah. 00:14:16.820 --> 00:14:17.080 Yeah. 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:23.820 So, there's a few other projects like Alex, first of all, I just want to give Alex 00:14:23.820 --> 00:14:27.140 Riviera a shout out for helping me sort of modernize the script. 00:14:27.140 --> 00:14:27.740 He says, Hey, that's cool. 00:14:27.740 --> 00:14:29.480 You want me to like a more modern version of it? 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:30.380 I'm like, yes, please. 00:14:30.380 --> 00:14:32.120 My JavaScript is not that good. 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:38.500 And then Adam chains pointed out that he created Django browser reload, which does something 00:14:38.500 --> 00:14:44.560 somewhat like this for Django where it looks and it says, you know, if my Django code has 00:14:44.560 --> 00:14:47.080 changed and the server has been restarted, then reloaded. 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:52.620 If, it's, he says it does static files, although, haven't, I don't know that it's 00:14:52.620 --> 00:14:58.140 necessarily showing, passing through enough information to really reliably do that. 00:14:58.140 --> 00:15:01.560 You know, like for caching, it might still load a stale version of something. 00:15:01.560 --> 00:15:07.060 but anyway, if you're doing this as like a web hook thing, so you install something inside 00:15:07.060 --> 00:15:11.440 of your website on the server and then the script and those like coordinate. 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:11.740 Right. 00:15:11.740 --> 00:15:14.740 And I specifically decided I don't want that. 00:15:14.740 --> 00:15:16.780 Like this would work on node. 00:15:16.780 --> 00:15:18.820 This would work on human. 00:15:18.820 --> 00:15:23.500 The example I'm playing with now is FastAPI tailwind, all those things. 00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:25.880 So like, it doesn't matter what's on the server. 00:15:25.880 --> 00:15:26.180 Right. 00:15:26.180 --> 00:15:30.660 And so that's a trade-off cause it, it's a little bit more chatty checking back with 00:15:30.660 --> 00:15:33.720 a server, but not, I find that just I include a script. 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:34.160 This happens. 00:15:34.160 --> 00:15:35.120 I don't include the script. 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.040 It doesn't know that there's no difference that that's nice to me. 00:15:38.040 --> 00:15:38.360 Yeah. 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:43.260 So, yeah, like I said, you just include a script and make sure that you don't do it 00:15:43.260 --> 00:15:43.660 in production. 00:15:43.900 --> 00:15:47.680 It checks by default every second, but you can change that to whatever you can open 00:15:47.680 --> 00:15:49.960 up your dev console and toggle it on and off. 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.560 So like, I need you to not mess with it cause I'm going to set a break point. 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:57.340 And if you keep requesting this page over and over, you're going to make me crazy and screw 00:15:57.340 --> 00:15:58.400 up the debugging session. 00:15:58.400 --> 00:16:01.780 so it works even indirectly. 00:16:01.780 --> 00:16:06.780 So like I'm doing tailwind, so I added a source CSS file tailwind watches that builds a new 00:16:06.780 --> 00:16:11.540 CSS file that CSS files included in the HTML. 00:16:11.540 --> 00:16:16.660 The HTML is smart enough to put a little like version hash identifier on the CSS. 00:16:16.660 --> 00:16:19.940 Anytime it changes that triggers a change to the HTML, which reloads. 00:16:19.940 --> 00:16:22.660 So like same thing for images, same things for JavaScript. 00:16:22.660 --> 00:16:26.300 So anytime there's like a static resource change, as long as you do something like this, it'll 00:16:26.300 --> 00:16:26.760 pick it up. 00:16:26.760 --> 00:16:31.540 So if you're doing web development, especially the, while you're doing the design side, you 00:16:31.540 --> 00:16:33.260 you know, consider grabbing this little script. 00:16:33.260 --> 00:16:34.800 I don't know how big it is. 00:16:34.800 --> 00:16:35.800 It's small. 00:16:35.800 --> 00:16:36.640 It is. 00:16:36.640 --> 00:16:37.940 Let's go pull it up. 00:16:37.940 --> 00:16:39.220 I don't know how many lines it is. 00:16:39.220 --> 00:16:40.820 Probably it's like two and a half pages. 00:16:40.820 --> 00:16:42.060 One of those pages is comments. 00:16:42.060 --> 00:16:44.600 So that's, that's no big deal. 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:46.860 So you can just throw it in there and try it if you like. 00:16:46.860 --> 00:16:48.220 it's really nice. 00:16:48.220 --> 00:16:49.440 Even works over the network. 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.220 If you can like get to the server with Ngrok or something like that. 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:52.840 Oh yeah. 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:53.180 Cool. 00:16:53.180 --> 00:16:53.660 Yeah. 00:16:53.660 --> 00:16:57.800 So it works outside of Python as well, but I built for Python. 00:16:57.800 --> 00:16:58.540 Exactly. 00:16:58.540 --> 00:17:00.500 I was working on FastAPI when I built it. 00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:00.980 Nice. 00:17:01.300 --> 00:17:01.680 All right. 00:17:01.680 --> 00:17:02.320 Over to you. 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:02.820 What's next? 00:17:02.820 --> 00:17:06.780 Well, we just, this is a hot off the presses, at least for us. 00:17:06.780 --> 00:17:13.220 my Matthew Feikert, let us know this more just this morning. 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:18.860 Hey, it seems like, the day has finally come for Excel users to rejoice and use Python 00:17:18.860 --> 00:17:19.560 in Excel. 00:17:19.560 --> 00:17:21.180 So what is he talking about? 00:17:21.180 --> 00:17:26.360 There's an announcement from Anaconda that, Python and Excel next level data analysis 00:17:26.360 --> 00:17:26.920 for all. 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.500 So what does this look like? 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:33.340 it says you can write Python code directly in a Microsoft Excel grid. 00:17:33.340 --> 00:17:35.220 No Python install required. 00:17:35.420 --> 00:17:36.720 So I don't know much about this. 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:38.640 I haven't played with it, but it looks fun. 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:43.240 It like, all you need is equal PI equal, like P Y. 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:44.840 Oh, there's a little video. 00:17:44.840 --> 00:17:45.160 Cool. 00:17:45.260 --> 00:17:48.540 So you just say PI and then you can just type in some code. 00:17:48.540 --> 00:17:55.900 I don't know how much coding I want to do right in a Python or in a Excel, cell, 00:17:55.900 --> 00:17:56.500 I guess. 00:17:56.500 --> 00:17:57.880 But, but I don't know. 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:58.700 It sounds kind of neat. 00:17:58.780 --> 00:18:04.100 even in, it says that you can use matplotlib and seaborne and stuff like this. 00:18:04.100 --> 00:18:05.660 So I'm not sure how this works. 00:18:05.660 --> 00:18:07.700 Is it just built into Excel now? 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:08.260 I don't know. 00:18:08.260 --> 00:18:10.280 But anyway, I'm excited about it. 00:18:10.280 --> 00:18:14.760 So I guess I should have researched it a little bit more before talking about it, but neat. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:15.160 Yeah. 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:16.120 People can check it out. 00:18:16.120 --> 00:18:17.520 I, I don't know. 00:18:17.520 --> 00:18:24.900 I have heard rumors of Python coming to Excel and this looks like it's coming from Anaconda. 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:25.540 Yeah. 00:18:25.540 --> 00:18:29.940 So I'm not sure if this is the same thing or if this is something different. 00:18:29.940 --> 00:18:31.420 Yeah. 00:18:31.420 --> 00:18:35.380 It says, experience, experience the power of Python and Excel for yourself. 00:18:35.380 --> 00:18:37.360 Windows users can sign up here. 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:39.120 So that's a click on that. 00:18:39.120 --> 00:18:39.720 Where's that take you? 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:41.740 a Microsoft. 00:18:41.740 --> 00:18:42.800 Yeah, there you go. 00:18:42.800 --> 00:18:43.260 I'm interested. 00:18:43.520 --> 00:18:48.260 So it is, it's part of the 365 insider program right now to use this feature. 00:18:48.260 --> 00:18:51.300 So, kind of neat. 00:18:51.300 --> 00:18:53.160 oh, neat. 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:54.260 A little, insert. 00:18:54.260 --> 00:18:54.880 Wow. 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:55.860 Start using Python. 00:18:55.860 --> 00:18:56.660 Python formula. 00:18:56.660 --> 00:18:56.840 Yeah. 00:18:56.840 --> 00:18:57.800 Insert the formula. 00:18:57.800 --> 00:18:58.380 Huh? 00:18:58.380 --> 00:18:58.580 Yeah. 00:18:58.580 --> 00:19:01.960 I gotta, I gotta do some more research on this before I can, I can say for sure. 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:07.320 But, you know, I think if, if we can save the world from doing VBA, let's do it. 00:19:07.320 --> 00:19:12.220 But I think it's, it's, as far as getting this right, I think it's pretty cool to have Anaconda and 00:19:12.220 --> 00:19:14.080 Microsoft working together to make this work. 00:19:14.080 --> 00:19:17.980 Like there's, those are the right partners to, to look into this. 00:19:17.980 --> 00:19:18.820 So, yeah. 00:19:18.820 --> 00:19:19.400 Anyway. 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:24.060 I wonder if I don't think I'm part of this beta channel thing. 00:19:24.060 --> 00:19:28.380 So I don't think I can try it, but yeah, I'd like to anyway. 00:19:28.380 --> 00:19:30.240 So that's. 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:30.320 Yeah. 00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:33.040 I, I'm not part of the beta program either. 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:38.020 I'm not that excited about office, but I'm excited that this is, you know, this is really 00:19:38.020 --> 00:19:38.240 cool. 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:38.720 Yeah. 00:19:38.780 --> 00:19:44.840 I am having to use, do it more and more spreadsheets as, as my management, the sort of things 00:19:44.840 --> 00:19:45.420 increase. 00:19:45.420 --> 00:19:47.460 so does Excel. 00:19:47.460 --> 00:19:50.640 it's just part of it anyway. 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:51.800 Yeah. 00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:52.280 Yeah. 00:19:52.280 --> 00:19:57.960 There's also some other companies and projects out there that have in a Google doc, like hosted 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.900 spreadsheets that are purely Python based. 00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:02.740 I talked to, I can't remember the name. 00:20:02.740 --> 00:20:05.260 I don't want to talk to so many companies at the startup row. 00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:07.520 I don't want to miss represent them. 00:20:07.520 --> 00:20:12.020 I would say, you know, cross one over with the other, but that looked really, really cool 00:20:12.020 --> 00:20:12.820 as well. 00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:14.760 and it was only Python. 00:20:14.760 --> 00:20:18.960 So I don't know if there's a lot of, a lot of stuff happening around this right now and 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:19.860 it's, it's pretty exciting. 00:20:19.860 --> 00:20:20.320 Yeah. 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:22.900 I guess just a step in the right direction. 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:23.840 So that's good. 00:20:23.840 --> 00:20:25.400 It was like five years ago. 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:33.120 This was the single biggest user voice, single, most uploaded user voice thing in the Microsoft 00:20:33.120 --> 00:20:35.640 request for features and ideas. 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.340 And it just got no reply. 00:20:37.340 --> 00:20:38.740 Like they just ignored it. 00:20:38.740 --> 00:20:41.560 There was crickets below it. 00:20:41.560 --> 00:20:41.800 Right. 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:46.840 And, so it's, it's interesting that it, you know, finally got some traction. 00:20:46.840 --> 00:20:47.780 Yeah. 00:20:47.780 --> 00:20:48.640 Yeah. 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.700 I think it's pretty cool. 00:20:49.700 --> 00:20:55.780 So maybe we'll see, if anybody out there is, is, has played with it or knows anything, 00:20:55.780 --> 00:20:56.500 let me know. 00:20:56.500 --> 00:20:57.040 Be great. 00:20:57.040 --> 00:20:57.460 Yeah. 00:20:57.460 --> 00:21:00.660 Or, throw a comment at the bottom of YouTube live stream. 00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:01.080 Oh yeah. 00:21:01.080 --> 00:21:01.460 That's good. 00:21:01.460 --> 00:21:01.860 For folks. 00:21:01.860 --> 00:21:02.400 Yeah. 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:03.660 All right. 00:21:03.660 --> 00:21:03.880 All right. 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:05.260 Well, those are our items. 00:21:05.260 --> 00:21:08.020 do you have any extras for us? 00:21:08.020 --> 00:21:10.200 I have two things that are extra. 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:11.460 Let's talk about them. 00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:12.720 PyCon Sweden. 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:21.160 The call for proposals is out and it will be in 78 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, 16 seconds 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:22.760 on November 9th and 10th. 00:21:22.760 --> 00:21:23.300 Okay. 00:21:23.300 --> 00:21:27.460 Don't know if I can attend online or in person. 00:21:27.460 --> 00:21:29.920 It looks like it will be at the Hilton Srdusen. 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:32.340 So I'm guessing that that's not online. 00:21:32.340 --> 00:21:33.740 So people can check that out there. 00:21:33.740 --> 00:21:35.300 It sounds like it'd be pretty awesome. 00:21:35.300 --> 00:21:36.920 I was near Sweden. 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:37.580 I would go to. 00:21:37.580 --> 00:21:38.640 I would too. 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:39.220 Yeah. 00:21:39.580 --> 00:21:41.100 But it's quite the flight from here. 00:21:41.100 --> 00:21:41.700 So. 00:21:41.700 --> 00:21:42.880 Never been to Sweden. 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.100 All right. 00:21:43.100 --> 00:21:44.320 anything else? 00:21:44.320 --> 00:21:45.340 No, neither have I. 00:21:45.340 --> 00:21:48.380 I have been to Norway, been to Amsterdam, but not there. 00:21:48.380 --> 00:21:49.220 And one more thing. 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:57.400 So I'm looking to do, a talk Python episode around mobile apps and Python. 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:11.040 And this got started as a listeners like, Hey, I'd really love to hear about how you built in, you know, how was Python serving as the backend for your flutter redesign for your mobile apps? 00:22:11.040 --> 00:22:11.280 Right. 00:22:11.280 --> 00:22:15.360 Cause it's all Python APIs, but it's something else on the front end. 00:22:15.360 --> 00:22:19.220 They're like, how did you decide to not use something Python for the front end? 00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:21.340 Or how did you decide on what you used? 00:22:21.340 --> 00:22:24.200 And a couple other people had some thoughts as well. 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:38.280 So I think it might be really fun to do an episode where people who have created or work with, you know, either they're the backend dev or the front end dev or cross the board created mobile apps that are actual apps in the app store. 00:22:38.280 --> 00:22:45.980 Or not just like, Oh, I tried this framework, but if you have an app in the app store and it has Python involved deeply in some way, right? 00:22:45.980 --> 00:22:50.820 Maybe the APIs are in Python or there's some other way in which Python is involved. 00:22:50.820 --> 00:22:58.020 Maybe you're somehow embedding Python into the app, or even, you know, maybe it's a Kivi app or something like that. 00:22:58.020 --> 00:23:06.260 If you're interested in being on talk Python and a panel to kind of talk about like, you know, what, what are people doing with Python and mobile these days? 00:23:06.260 --> 00:23:06.980 Right. 00:23:06.980 --> 00:23:07.960 I think that would be a lot of fun. 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:10.540 Like, I I'd love to have you on that show. 00:23:10.540 --> 00:23:14.040 So the link for this is in the podcast platter show notes. 00:23:14.040 --> 00:23:18.680 I will not read it out, but it says beyond talk Python around mobile apps. 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.180 the link is tremendously long. 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:27.860 So go click that in the show notes or the episode page and just, you know, give us your name. 00:23:27.860 --> 00:23:32.740 What's your app about, like how, how it's building and like maybe a couple of the really short things. 00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:40.360 So I'd love to put it together in an episode like that, but it's really hard to like know who to invite because it's not entirely obvious looking in from the outside, you know? 00:23:40.360 --> 00:23:40.760 Yeah. 00:23:40.760 --> 00:23:41.160 Yeah. 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:41.220 Yeah. 00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:45.580 So call, it's kind of a call for proposals to talk Python, I suppose. 00:23:45.580 --> 00:23:47.660 And the second appearance of a Google form. 00:23:48.300 --> 00:23:48.800 Flutter. 00:23:48.800 --> 00:23:49.640 Blase says Flutter. 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:49.840 Yeah. 00:23:49.840 --> 00:23:50.860 Flutter is pretty excellent. 00:23:50.860 --> 00:23:57.980 Flutter is, I had the Flutter folks on talk Python and, what is basically a Python wrapper around Flutter. 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:02.540 Don't know that they have, app store support yet. 00:24:02.540 --> 00:24:04.560 maybe they do. 00:24:04.560 --> 00:24:06.060 Is Flutter the past tense of Flutter? 00:24:06.060 --> 00:24:07.320 I am fluttering. 00:24:07.320 --> 00:24:08.260 I did Flutter. 00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:08.920 Maybe. 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:09.920 Yes, exactly. 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:13.980 that has something about PyCon 2024 on there. 00:24:13.980 --> 00:24:15.780 But anyway, Flutter is really interesting. 00:24:15.780 --> 00:24:24.140 I did talk to, I can't remember the guy's name over on talk Python, but I remember it was not quite ready for the app stores, but that was a while ago. 00:24:24.140 --> 00:24:28.420 So if it's made it further on, sure, Flutter would be an awesome part of that discussion. 00:24:28.420 --> 00:24:29.020 Neat. 00:24:29.020 --> 00:24:30.340 I think I might check it out. 00:24:30.340 --> 00:24:30.940 Yeah. 00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:31.360 I can't wait. 00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:31.580 Yeah. 00:24:31.580 --> 00:24:31.880 All right. 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:32.520 Can't wait. 00:24:32.520 --> 00:24:32.920 So. 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:33.540 Yeah. 00:24:33.540 --> 00:24:33.880 Thanks. 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.340 Okay. 00:24:35.340 --> 00:24:36.900 So I have. 00:24:36.900 --> 00:24:37.260 Extras. 00:24:37.260 --> 00:24:50.460 I have, I've just, I've been so busy lately, because I'm working on this pytest course and I find, we announced it last week, but I finally, like yesterday morning or something, I finally put it up on my blog. 00:24:50.460 --> 00:24:50.960 pytest. 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.480 So pythontest.com courses. 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:54.600 You can finally find it. 00:24:54.600 --> 00:24:57.100 You can also find the one that I have up on Talk Python Training. 00:24:57.100 --> 00:24:58.040 There's a link to that. 00:24:58.040 --> 00:24:59.280 And it's still a great course. 00:24:59.280 --> 00:25:02.060 Some, but some people asked me, was that like different? 00:25:02.060 --> 00:25:11.900 It is different, but it's, it's a, the Talk Python Training one is like a, is a, is a good like starter one to like, just get, get you going on pytest. 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:13.300 and it's still awesome. 00:25:13.300 --> 00:25:15.720 and it's not outdated or anything. 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:22.840 the new one is just, is like the full book, but I'm, I'm, I'm really trying to keep every, it's not just the full book. 00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:24.120 It's a whole bunch of extra stuff too. 00:25:24.120 --> 00:25:29.600 But, it's not, I just wanted to mention it's up on, pythontest.com slash courses now. 00:25:29.600 --> 00:25:35.180 So you don't have to find the link because it, it links to, it's a teachable site. 00:25:35.180 --> 00:25:36.500 So it links to that one. 00:25:36.500 --> 00:25:40.700 But the, because I hadn't really announced it really everywhere. 00:25:40.700 --> 00:25:45.040 I've extended the, last, last week we said there was a 20% discount. 00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:48.000 I've extended that 20% discount till the end of the month. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.820 So it'll be in the show notes. 00:25:49.820 --> 00:25:53.440 It's just Python bytes and all one word and it's 20% discount. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:26:01.380 So, and a whole bunch of people have, signed up so far, or enough to make me believe it's a good idea to do this. 00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:03.900 And I really appreciate the support and the encouragement. 00:26:04.340 --> 00:26:10.800 I'm really having fun with the fixtures, chapter because fixtures are a thing that is hard to get your head around. 00:26:10.800 --> 00:26:14.800 And I'm really, putting a lot of extra effort, putting some drawings in stuff. 00:26:14.800 --> 00:26:15.820 So it's going good. 00:26:15.820 --> 00:26:19.440 I guess that's my extra so far is just, this is going well. 00:26:19.820 --> 00:26:20.220 Yeah. 00:26:20.220 --> 00:26:20.560 Great. 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:21.280 Glad to hear it. 00:26:21.280 --> 00:26:25.300 It's, exciting to see people interacting with the stuff you build. 00:26:25.300 --> 00:26:25.540 Isn't it? 00:26:25.540 --> 00:26:33.580 I remember when I did a Kickstarter for the first course that I did, I had an early access aspect to it and it was, it was good. 00:26:33.580 --> 00:26:33.960 It was fun. 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:34.340 Yeah. 00:26:34.340 --> 00:26:41.840 And I think I'm going to try to do, I'm not going to promise this, but I'm going to try to do some open hours or office hours things associated with this also. 00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:48.540 I just don't have any time this week, so I'm not sure when I'll try to fit that in, but, yeah, it'll be good. 00:26:48.540 --> 00:26:49.400 All right. 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:49.620 Yeah. 00:26:49.620 --> 00:26:49.840 Cool. 00:26:49.840 --> 00:26:51.240 How about something funny? 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.580 How about two? 00:26:52.580 --> 00:26:53.160 Something's funny. 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:53.520 Yeah. 00:26:53.520 --> 00:26:55.200 Do you want to start with mine or yours? 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:55.780 Yours. 00:26:55.780 --> 00:26:56.180 Okay. 00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:59.680 somebody, I can't remember where I saw this, but I just think it's hilarious. 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:08.880 I was looking for password, secure password generators and I've got one on my phone, but, but I wanted one, like a web accessible one that I could just look up. 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:09.920 Kenny logins. 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.800 It's Kenny log dash in.com. 00:27:12.800 --> 00:27:16.480 And it's a password generator based on Kenny logins. 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.560 Something about the highway to the dangers. 00:27:19.580 --> 00:27:20.080 Yeah. 00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:20.080 Yeah. 00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:20.740 And all those things. 00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:22.200 So you can, so you can pick, 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.400 Oh, the danger zone is weak. 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:23.860 Oh no. 00:27:23.860 --> 00:27:25.000 The danger zone is weak. 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:25.260 Yeah. 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:26.380 Cause it's a danger zone. 00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:29.240 So you can just, click which, how secure you want it. 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:34.920 And then you hit generate and then it generates, so head up like a king. 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:36.660 I don't know what's some symbols in there. 00:27:36.660 --> 00:27:38.960 It's a pretty secure password for a weak one. 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:39.360 Okay. 00:27:39.360 --> 00:27:41.220 Watching the river run. 00:27:41.220 --> 00:27:43.140 nowhere to hide. 00:27:43.140 --> 00:27:43.980 No way to hide. 00:27:43.980 --> 00:27:44.700 And then, okay. 00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:45.480 So all right. 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:46.240 I'm all right. 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:47.140 Is all right. 00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:48.140 Like security. 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.680 And, I guess they're just a little bit longer. 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:53.960 anyway, this, and then strong passwords. 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:54.660 This is it. 00:27:54.660 --> 00:27:55.360 There we go. 00:27:55.360 --> 00:27:55.600 Yeah. 00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:58.800 Those are, but there's like, mixed capitalizations and stuff. 00:27:58.800 --> 00:28:00.900 these would be hard to remember. 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:02.020 It's actually a really good password. 00:28:02.020 --> 00:28:03.120 That's a totally valid one. 00:28:03.120 --> 00:28:04.540 These are all pretty good. 00:28:04.540 --> 00:28:08.740 it's just, I thought it was really funny to have a themed password generator. 00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:09.520 It's awesome. 00:28:09.520 --> 00:28:16.860 So me in the F14 with Maverick in the sky back there, leaving a pond trail with a password. 00:28:16.860 --> 00:28:23.040 And I don't know if it's a generational thing, but I can't even hear the phrase danger zone without it playing in my head. 00:28:23.040 --> 00:28:23.500 I know. 00:28:23.500 --> 00:28:25.880 I know it's pretty good stuff. 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:26.220 All right. 00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:26.600 Okay. 00:28:26.600 --> 00:28:27.260 What do you got? 00:28:27.260 --> 00:28:29.680 Speaking with a theme here, the password game. 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:30.360 Do you want to play it? 00:28:30.580 --> 00:28:31.120 Sure. 00:28:31.120 --> 00:28:34.560 At Neil dot fun slash password dash game. 00:28:34.560 --> 00:28:35.860 It says choose a password. 00:28:35.860 --> 00:28:36.220 Okay. 00:28:36.220 --> 00:28:37.580 I like the letter A. 00:28:37.580 --> 00:28:38.840 I typically go with that. 00:28:38.840 --> 00:28:41.980 So it's got to be, five characters. 00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:43.320 So there we go. 00:28:43.320 --> 00:28:44.520 Then it says, all right, cool. 00:28:44.520 --> 00:28:45.560 You passed a couple of things. 00:28:45.560 --> 00:28:48.020 It has to include a number because I typed five, A, A, A, A. 00:28:48.020 --> 00:28:49.480 Oh, wait, A, five, five, five, five. 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.120 It says it must include an uppercase. 00:28:51.120 --> 00:28:53.460 A must include a special character. 00:28:53.460 --> 00:28:53.940 Bang. 00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:54.800 What else would you put? 00:28:54.800 --> 00:28:56.960 Your digits must add 25. 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:58.360 So I got to put another five in there. 00:28:58.360 --> 00:28:59.200 It could go at the end though. 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.120 It doesn't have to be in order. 00:29:00.260 --> 00:29:01.100 Include a monthly. 00:29:01.100 --> 00:29:01.800 It must include. 00:29:01.800 --> 00:29:02.460 Yeah. 00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:03.480 So may. 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.200 Must include a sponsor in here. 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.740 So Pepsi, one of their sponsors, right? 00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:09.820 So it shows their sponsors. 00:29:09.820 --> 00:29:10.520 You got to use it. 00:29:10.520 --> 00:29:11.140 Whatever. 00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:13.220 Roman numerals should multiply to five. 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:14.920 This is all additive under the rules. 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.880 Roman numerals in your, let's see. 00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:20.480 What is five in a Roman numeral? 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:21.240 Do you know? 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.100 V right? 00:29:23.100 --> 00:29:23.380 Right. 00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:23.840 Yeah. 00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:25.920 V and then V I I. 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:26.920 Oh, come on. 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.240 That's, it's five times seven. 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.000 No, whatever. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.480 I can't do Roman numeral multiple, like it of math. 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:34.040 So I'm done. 00:29:34.040 --> 00:29:37.300 I can't create an account apparently, but here we are. 00:29:37.300 --> 00:29:37.860 Roman. 00:29:37.860 --> 00:29:38.580 Let's look it up. 00:29:38.580 --> 00:29:39.800 Roman 35. 00:29:39.800 --> 00:29:41.000 It has to multiply. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.320 It has to be two numbers that multiply. 00:29:43.320 --> 00:29:46.320 Roman numbers in your password should multiply to 35. 00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:49.680 So like seven and it's like seven and five, right? 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:49.920 Yeah. 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.480 That's what I thought. 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:51.640 I thought I did seven. 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.140 I, I and V or is that maybe like, I can't get rid of the M. 00:29:56.140 --> 00:29:56.600 Oh yeah. 00:29:56.600 --> 00:29:57.920 It says there's a problem with the M. 00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:58.660 Cause that's may. 00:29:58.660 --> 00:29:59.940 I got to do a lowercase. 00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:00.560 There we go. 00:30:00.560 --> 00:30:01.540 Thank you, Pat. 00:30:01.540 --> 00:30:02.520 Right. 00:30:02.520 --> 00:30:02.760 No. 00:30:02.760 --> 00:30:03.460 Thank you, Mike. 00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:06.900 So I had may capitalize cause it's a formal noun. 00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:09.080 but it was being treated as a room. 00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:10.000 This capture. 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.120 Okay. 00:30:12.120 --> 00:30:12.820 Does a recap. 00:30:12.820 --> 00:30:13.760 So you got to type it. 00:30:13.760 --> 00:30:14.140 Yeah. 00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:14.740 Let's go. 00:30:14.740 --> 00:30:15.280 Keep going. 00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:17.160 Y4N6M. 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.020 But now my digits don't add up anymore. 00:30:19.020 --> 00:30:19.800 And there were digits. 00:30:19.800 --> 00:30:22.300 There were digits in the capture. 00:30:22.300 --> 00:30:23.080 Okay. 00:30:23.080 --> 00:30:25.160 I must include today's word. 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:25.520 Okay. 00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:28.260 Then I'm, I'm completely. 00:30:28.260 --> 00:30:28.900 I'm done. 00:30:28.900 --> 00:30:29.260 Yeah. 00:30:29.260 --> 00:30:29.600 I'm out. 00:30:29.600 --> 00:30:30.380 I'm out. 00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:31.440 This is good. 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:32.780 Yeah. 00:30:32.780 --> 00:30:33.560 Nice. 00:30:33.560 --> 00:30:38.100 I personally just use a proper password manager and let it guess. 00:30:38.100 --> 00:30:38.580 Yeah. 00:30:38.580 --> 00:30:39.500 Or they come up with one. 00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:40.040 Yeah. 00:30:40.040 --> 00:30:41.220 Or Kenny Loggins. 00:30:41.220 --> 00:30:41.920 Kenny Loggins. 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.040 It's always there for you. 00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:46.880 Oh, look at. 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:47.600 Talk to me, Goose. 00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:48.080 Talk to me. 00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:48.420 Come on. 00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:49.280 Oh, look at the bottom. 00:30:49.280 --> 00:30:51.900 look at all the old computers and stuff at the bottom. 00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:52.780 We got a Commodore. 00:30:52.780 --> 00:30:53.780 Oh, I love it. 00:30:53.780 --> 00:30:55.520 It's got like an Atari 2600. 00:30:55.520 --> 00:30:56.200 Yeah. 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:57.080 Anyway. 00:30:57.080 --> 00:30:57.980 Joystick. 00:30:57.980 --> 00:31:00.560 Ah, well, this was a great episode. 00:31:00.560 --> 00:31:03.020 nice, funny passwords at the end. 00:31:03.020 --> 00:31:04.280 Thanks a lot again. 00:31:04.280 --> 00:31:06.080 And, yeah, we'll talk next week.