WEBVTT 00:00:00.001 --> 00:00:04.920 Hello and welcome to Python Bytes, where we deliver Python news and headlines directly to your earbuds. 00:00:04.920 --> 00:00:10.540 This is episode 357, recorded October 17th, and I am Brian Okken. 00:00:10.540 --> 00:00:11.520 And I am Michael Kennedy. 00:00:11.520 --> 00:00:14.400 And our show is sponsored by us. 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:16.880 Check out Talk Python Training, of course. 00:00:16.880 --> 00:00:21.400 There's wonderful courses from Michael and other people, including myself. 00:00:21.400 --> 00:00:25.340 And Patreon supporters, of course. 00:00:25.340 --> 00:00:26.640 We love Patreon supporters. 00:00:27.780 --> 00:00:30.700 We haven't really talked to him much lately, sending out emails. 00:00:30.700 --> 00:00:31.600 I should do that more. 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.480 And lastly, the complete pytest course. 00:00:35.480 --> 00:00:38.840 Please check it out if you want to learn pytest the fastest way possible. 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:45.620 And you can connect with us on Mastodon, on Mastodon, on Fosstodon, both of those. 00:00:45.620 --> 00:00:49.180 And Michael's @mkennedy. 00:00:49.180 --> 00:00:50.780 I'm @brianokken. 00:00:50.780 --> 00:00:52.700 And the show is at Python Bytes. 00:00:52.700 --> 00:00:56.800 And you can also listen live if you head over to pythonbytes.fm. 00:00:57.080 --> 00:01:00.500 And you can watch it when we live stream, as we are right now. 00:01:00.500 --> 00:01:01.400 Absolutely. 00:01:01.400 --> 00:01:04.040 So, Michael, let's kick it off with something hot. 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:05.440 Let's kick it off. 00:01:05.440 --> 00:01:12.000 I want to talk about a couple of, well, something I've learned from Glyph when I was at PyBay. 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:13.080 Was that last weekend? 00:01:13.080 --> 00:01:13.480 Two weekends? 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.540 Last weekend, I guess. 00:01:14.540 --> 00:01:16.140 Glyph gave a really cool talk. 00:01:16.140 --> 00:01:21.820 Some of the talks are starting to show up on YouTube, but his talk is not there yet. 00:01:21.820 --> 00:01:22.760 Or I would link to it. 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:30.440 And it was something along the lines of like, how to program your computer with Python, which sounds silly because we're all pretty good Python programmers. 00:01:30.440 --> 00:01:32.720 Like you should think, okay, well, I could do that. 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:34.880 But this was about, how do I automate stuff? 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:37.040 How do I plug into things? 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:48.840 Like how can I automate keynote to extract show notes out to put into another document or PowerPoint or, you know, things along those lines. 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:55.480 And one of the things that he both created and talked about was this thing called Quick Mac Hotkey. 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:01.340 Because you might want to have your Python not have a UI you're interacting with, but just be chilling in the background. 00:02:01.340 --> 00:02:03.960 And if you had a certain hotkey, it does the thing, right? 00:02:03.960 --> 00:02:04.440 Yeah. 00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:04.920 Yeah. 00:02:05.020 --> 00:02:07.760 So this Quick Mac Hotkey does that. 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.000 And basically it's super simple to use. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:19.140 It's just a set of minimal Python bindings for macOS framework APIs using, what does it use for it to pull this off? 00:02:19.140 --> 00:02:20.740 Look through here. 00:02:20.740 --> 00:02:21.220 Oh yeah. 00:02:21.220 --> 00:02:24.400 Py OBJC, I believe is what it's using. 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.020 So you just super easy to write some code. 00:02:27.020 --> 00:02:30.980 You want to have a function that's called when a keystroke is down. 00:02:31.220 --> 00:02:36.460 You just give it the decorator quick hotkey and you say the virtual key is the X. 00:02:36.460 --> 00:02:39.840 The modifier is command control option. 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:46.240 So just hit all three of those plus X, you know, something that's most likely not going to interfere with some other behavior. 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.740 And then boom, off it goes. 00:02:47.740 --> 00:02:49.420 And look how simple that code is. 00:02:49.420 --> 00:02:49.900 Isn't that nice? 00:02:49.900 --> 00:02:50.560 Yeah. 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:51.220 Yeah. 00:02:51.220 --> 00:02:52.200 That's pretty cool. 00:02:52.200 --> 00:02:56.120 Although I don't know if I can find my command control and hotkey at the same time. 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:57.900 But cool. 00:02:58.200 --> 00:02:58.420 Yeah. 00:02:58.420 --> 00:03:03.180 I use a Windows keyboard, unfortunately, because there's no ergonomic Mac keyboards. 00:03:03.180 --> 00:03:07.240 Like, you know, apparently Apple hates people and they want them to have RSI for the rest of their life. 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:08.580 But doesn't they only make these? 00:03:08.580 --> 00:03:10.920 Does the window key map to the command key? 00:03:10.920 --> 00:03:11.040 Yeah. 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:12.820 The window keys is just the command key. 00:03:12.820 --> 00:03:12.980 Yeah. 00:03:12.980 --> 00:03:13.220 Okay. 00:03:13.220 --> 00:03:15.120 So it's nothing too fancy. 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.760 So there's not a lot of depth. 00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:21.440 And we got to dive into this other than how cool is it if you want to just add hotkeys here? 00:03:21.440 --> 00:03:22.180 Yeah. 00:03:22.180 --> 00:03:23.220 So off you go. 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:23.640 Okay. 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:26.580 So when you install it, does it just run all the time or something? 00:03:26.580 --> 00:03:29.720 I think whenever your app is running. 00:03:29.720 --> 00:03:30.320 Okay. 00:03:30.320 --> 00:03:32.260 Like, so you can see the last line of this example. 00:03:32.260 --> 00:03:33.820 It says app helper dot run event loop. 00:03:33.820 --> 00:03:34.240 Okay. 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.840 So that's just like set there in the background and just wait for events. 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.540 For example, it's this quick hotkey callback when somebody presses that. 00:03:41.540 --> 00:03:43.960 So one of those, though, could be exit. 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.980 You know, and just, you know, I don't know how you exit the event loop. 00:03:46.980 --> 00:03:49.960 Either raise an exception or just just exit or who knows. 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:51.400 There's got to be a way to get out of there. 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:52.260 Reboot your computer. 00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:53.360 Exactly. 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:54.300 It's like Vim. 00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:55.160 You're just in there. 00:03:55.160 --> 00:03:57.320 Nice. 00:03:57.320 --> 00:03:58.520 All right. 00:03:58.520 --> 00:03:59.020 Over to you. 00:03:59.020 --> 00:04:04.800 Well, I'm going to talk about command lines applications a little bit because Simon Wilson 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:08.560 had things I've learned about building CLI tools in Python. 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.020 And I really kind of like all the stuff he covered. 00:04:12.020 --> 00:04:13.260 I really like them. 00:04:13.260 --> 00:04:19.440 I mean, this isn't a super in-depth like how to write CLI tools, but some of the things like 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:25.760 just high level when you're writing command line applications, it's good to be rather consistent 00:04:25.760 --> 00:04:30.460 with other command line applications to make it easy to use because it's going to be used 00:04:30.460 --> 00:04:32.420 by people that like CLIs, right? 00:04:32.780 --> 00:04:36.400 So a couple of options things here. 00:04:36.400 --> 00:04:39.720 Be consistent with the terms. 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.780 Well, you have to kind of understand the terms, but there's commands, there's arguments, there's 00:04:43.780 --> 00:04:47.240 options and flags, and sometimes flags are options. 00:04:47.620 --> 00:04:48.220 Yeah. 00:04:48.220 --> 00:04:48.560 Anyway. 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:53.120 So commands that have our, he's using CLI applications. 00:04:53.120 --> 00:05:00.700 So the, he actually talks about CLI and also using a cookie cutter template that he lists 00:05:00.700 --> 00:05:08.440 at click app on Simon W on GitHub, but the, or yeah, cookie cutter template to build these, 00:05:08.440 --> 00:05:09.500 which is cool. 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:13.140 I like typer, which is built on top of CLI. 00:05:13.200 --> 00:05:18.760 So anyway, but these are, these are still good, good advice, like make sure that your 00:05:18.760 --> 00:05:23.880 options, what, you know, what options are and then make sure you have like a short character. 00:05:23.880 --> 00:05:31.600 So if you have --port also include like a dash P as a short version, because people 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:32.640 are used to that. 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:40.060 There's a mostly just a lot of description around making sure your flags and options and stuff 00:05:40.060 --> 00:05:40.660 are consistent. 00:05:40.660 --> 00:05:46.620 And I actually think people ought to get used to writing more CLI apps because especially 00:05:46.620 --> 00:05:52.940 for utilities for yourself and for a team, they're great because you'll use it all the 00:05:52.940 --> 00:05:55.280 time and it's, it's, you get used to it. 00:05:55.280 --> 00:05:58.400 It's easier than building a GUI application. 00:05:58.400 --> 00:06:00.480 So consistency is everything. 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.800 Try to be consistent with it. 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:04.700 One of the great things, the great advice here. 00:06:04.700 --> 00:06:08.100 So is he pay attention to your help message. 00:06:08.100 --> 00:06:16.420 So, a lot of CLI tools like typer and click kind of build a help for you so that it 00:06:16.420 --> 00:06:21.400 prints out like the options and stuff that you can, you can list, which is great, but you 00:06:21.400 --> 00:06:25.920 have to go in and add things like, put examples. 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:31.640 So example uses of like the entire application or the entire option and how to use it. 00:06:31.820 --> 00:06:37.700 this is extremely helpful and I really appreciate it even just for myself so that, 00:06:37.700 --> 00:06:41.260 um, like six months from now I can remember how to use it, things like that. 00:06:41.260 --> 00:06:42.980 So include options in the help. 00:06:42.980 --> 00:06:48.500 And then the other thing is, the lastly, Oh, examples, examples in help. 00:06:48.500 --> 00:06:51.200 And, there's a couple other things. 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:55.160 Oh, include the output of your help in your online documentation. 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:56.980 And there's ways to automate that. 00:06:56.980 --> 00:07:01.760 But I think that's great to just list it because I'm looking for it when I'm looking at the, 00:07:01.760 --> 00:07:03.620 like at the bottom of the read me or something. 00:07:03.620 --> 00:07:11.340 the lastly, is if you have a CLI that's being used by other people, make sure that you 00:07:11.340 --> 00:07:16.240 version it appropriately because, because it is an API. 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.700 A command line interface is, can be used by other programs. 00:07:19.700 --> 00:07:23.860 So treat it as an API, even if the other user is somebody's fingers. 00:07:23.860 --> 00:07:26.860 because if things change, people should know about it. 00:07:26.960 --> 00:07:32.500 So anyway, good, good application or a good article about building command line applications. 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:36.520 And then his, cool cookie cutter template for click apps. 00:07:36.520 --> 00:07:37.220 It's nice. 00:07:37.220 --> 00:07:37.720 Excellent. 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:38.160 Yeah. 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:38.740 Nice work, Simon. 00:07:38.740 --> 00:07:42.320 A couple of pieces of real time followup here. 00:07:42.320 --> 00:07:45.040 One audience is on point today. 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:50.140 So Kim out there says rich, rich click is also fantastic if you use click. 00:07:50.140 --> 00:07:52.320 And I definitely agree on that. 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:58.560 So it's like click, but all the help messages and stuff are in color using, you know, rich 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.120 and like little info boxes and stuff. 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:08.700 And then Rhett who, Rhett, who was on talk Python to talk about programming, Mac apps, macOS apps 00:08:08.700 --> 00:08:16.700 highlights that, you know, this quick hockey thing sounds like a good opportunity for a rumps menu bar app. 00:08:16.700 --> 00:08:17.900 So rumps is awesome. 00:08:17.900 --> 00:08:23.860 I was actually thinking of adding this hockey thing exactly for one of my rumps menu bar apps, 00:08:23.860 --> 00:08:29.900 which is just an unfair level of easy for building a Mac app that just runs in your menu bar. 00:08:29.900 --> 00:08:30.740 Oh, cool. 00:08:30.740 --> 00:08:30.980 Yeah. 00:08:30.980 --> 00:08:32.560 We've talked about that, but it's been a while. 00:08:32.560 --> 00:08:34.640 It has been a while, but you've got it for me. 00:08:34.640 --> 00:08:36.960 I've got to go up and find it and like, make it do the thing. 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:37.800 I'm like, you know what? 00:08:37.800 --> 00:08:38.660 A hot key. 00:08:38.660 --> 00:08:39.360 Oh yeah. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:40.080 Here we go. 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.120 Now it's on now. 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:43.160 It's going to the next level. 00:08:43.160 --> 00:08:44.220 So yeah. 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:44.480 Yeah. 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:45.000 Super cool. 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:45.380 All right. 00:08:45.380 --> 00:08:47.840 That's not what I want to talk about, but some good real time followup. 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.400 What I want to talk about is warp. 00:08:49.400 --> 00:08:52.720 And this is also an item from PI bay indirectly. 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:54.640 I ran into Elvis who works there. 00:08:54.640 --> 00:08:56.440 And have you heard of warp Brian? 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:57.700 No. 00:08:57.700 --> 00:08:59.140 Well, I mean warp speed. 00:08:59.140 --> 00:09:00.100 Yes, I know. 00:09:00.100 --> 00:09:00.980 Okay. 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:02.320 Got to resist the star Wars references. 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.220 it's, it's super cool. 00:09:04.220 --> 00:09:06.160 So what terminal do you use? 00:09:06.160 --> 00:09:11.060 Like when you go to use the built-in Mac one, do you use iterm two or what's your story? 00:09:11.060 --> 00:09:18.020 Well, I use the built-in Mac one, on Mac and then on windows, I use, the, what? 00:09:18.020 --> 00:09:18.760 The windows terminal. 00:09:18.760 --> 00:09:22.360 Well, that was a good one. 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:27.640 No, the get bash, get for windows bash comes with bash. 00:09:27.640 --> 00:09:28.540 So I use that. 00:09:28.540 --> 00:09:28.800 Okay. 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:29.300 Yeah. 00:09:29.300 --> 00:09:32.800 You should check out the windows terminal and then plug the get for bash into it. 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:36.940 You get like, it behaves better and you can pick from like nine different shells and like 00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:38.700 things that run inside the windows terminal. 00:09:38.700 --> 00:09:43.300 Anyway, windows terminal is awesome, but we don't have windows terminal on Mac, which is 00:09:43.300 --> 00:09:43.740 just fine. 00:09:43.740 --> 00:09:47.720 Cause we have iterm and other things, but I want to tell you about warp because warp is 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.780 a new terminal. 00:09:49.780 --> 00:09:54.760 it's got quite a bit of energy behind it and it's, it's awesome. 00:09:54.760 --> 00:09:58.500 so I think there's 30 people working on this project if I remember correctly, but there's, 00:09:58.500 --> 00:10:04.000 there's a good number of people that are working on building this new terminal based on rust. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.480 And it even is, programmed in metal shaders. 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:12.920 Metals are like the open GL direct X Mac equivalent for making it super, super fast. 00:10:12.920 --> 00:10:17.100 But basically like there's a bunch of shortcomings that always drove me crazy about the terminal 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:19.740 and a lot of things that are pretty nice here. 00:10:19.740 --> 00:10:21.680 So it's a free thing for individuals. 00:10:21.680 --> 00:10:24.940 If you're a company, you got to pay for it if you want to company features. 00:10:24.940 --> 00:10:27.420 but it's, it's worth checking out. 00:10:27.420 --> 00:10:33.780 So for example, if you write something, Brian, like I write, some multi-line command and 00:10:33.780 --> 00:10:36.380 you're like, Oh no, I forgot the quote at the beginning. 00:10:36.380 --> 00:10:41.400 You know, how do you fix it in I term left arrow, left arrow, left arrow, left arrow, left 00:10:41.400 --> 00:10:41.660 arrow. 00:10:41.660 --> 00:10:44.620 Like even home doesn't work, you know, left arrow, left arrow, left arrow. 00:10:44.620 --> 00:10:48.700 You wait and get back there and you type the quote, right arrow, right arrow to get the focus 00:10:48.700 --> 00:10:52.580 back, like clicking where you want to be doesn't work. 00:10:52.580 --> 00:10:53.100 Right. 00:10:53.100 --> 00:10:53.820 For example. 00:10:53.820 --> 00:10:57.640 Well, he's used Vim key bindings and just go there with Vim. 00:10:57.640 --> 00:11:01.380 Do you have Vim key bindings in the mat at the standard terminal? 00:11:01.380 --> 00:11:01.860 Yes. 00:11:01.860 --> 00:11:02.640 Everywhere. 00:11:02.640 --> 00:11:03.020 Yeah. 00:11:03.020 --> 00:11:03.520 Okay. 00:11:03.520 --> 00:11:05.760 All right. 00:11:05.760 --> 00:11:06.440 But awesome. 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:11.220 Well, so this one, like basically all the, stuff you type at the bottom or wherever you're 00:11:11.220 --> 00:11:15.580 typing is like a full on editor, which also has Vim key bindings. 00:11:15.580 --> 00:11:15.840 Yay. 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:16.460 Okay. 00:11:16.460 --> 00:11:16.500 Okay. 00:11:16.500 --> 00:11:17.280 No, go ahead. 00:11:17.280 --> 00:11:17.940 Okay. 00:11:17.940 --> 00:11:22.120 you can turn them on if you want, but you can basically click in there and edit pieces. 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:23.060 Like you can double click. 00:11:23.060 --> 00:11:23.760 It'll select a word. 00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:26.100 You start typing or places that super cool. 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:32.900 it has like a kind of a new way to like keep your input focused in one area, which is 00:11:32.900 --> 00:11:33.460 really nice. 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:36.900 So instead of it just being at the bottom of the screen, you can have it like always at the 00:11:36.900 --> 00:11:38.020 top or always at the bottom. 00:11:38.020 --> 00:11:43.180 one of the things that's cool is like it treats the output of every command as, 00:11:43.180 --> 00:11:45.460 a solid as one thing. 00:11:45.460 --> 00:11:51.240 So if I do like an LS and there's like 50 lines and I tail a catalog or something, then there's 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:52.360 like a thousand lines. 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:57.400 And then if you want to go back, you can actually just go back by selecting each block of that. 00:11:57.400 --> 00:12:00.400 So go back a thousand lines, go back 50 lines, do a search. 00:12:00.400 --> 00:12:04.520 You can search just that 50 line section from that one command, even though your terminal is 00:12:04.520 --> 00:12:05.080 full of junk. 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:06.040 Super, super cool. 00:12:06.160 --> 00:12:09.740 it does tons of autocomplete, which is super neat. 00:12:09.740 --> 00:12:12.000 let's see one thing else. 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.800 you can, if you do some kind of command, you're just talking about like Simon asking 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:19.800 ChatGPT for what does like a command mean. 00:12:19.800 --> 00:12:23.500 So if you said like LS dash one, what does the one mean? 00:12:23.500 --> 00:12:28.440 You know, you hover over the one, it'll like pop up a little documentation for what dash 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:29.080 one means. 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:30.560 Oh, that's cool. 00:12:30.560 --> 00:12:30.940 Yeah. 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:34.840 also as AI built in, if you want, I haven't used that very much, but you could like say 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.600 hash, how do I, you know, write this kind of loop in bash or whatever. 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:42.400 And it'll, it'll print it out for you, but I don't use that one too much. 00:12:42.400 --> 00:12:44.480 But anyway, super, super cool. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:46.300 a lot of interesting things. 00:12:46.300 --> 00:12:52.160 It has the control R history, kind of like, like McFly, which I've talked a lot 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:53.380 about how cool McFly is. 00:12:53.620 --> 00:12:56.640 So even the single try for a few weeks, really enjoying it so far. 00:12:56.640 --> 00:12:57.240 Cool. 00:12:57.240 --> 00:12:57.980 Love to try. 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:01.600 So people can check that out and yeah, pretty neat. 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.960 Kim says, we've come a long way from a few years ago when windows terminal and awesome 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:06.980 is in the same sentence. 00:13:06.980 --> 00:13:10.060 it's, I, yeah, I thought it was a joke also. 00:13:10.060 --> 00:13:15.880 I didn't, I can't believe that you said that, but no windows terminal is it's, I don't 00:13:15.880 --> 00:13:19.160 want to be on Wikipedia, but it is definitely, definitely nice. 00:13:19.260 --> 00:13:24.540 So I'm not on my windows machine and I'm not sharing my terminal anyway, but let's see if 00:13:24.540 --> 00:13:27.120 I can get it to show, hockey. 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:31.860 So like, and it doesn't really show it great, but you can click on this, like you set what 00:13:31.860 --> 00:13:35.260 the default shell is that you want it to do, but you can click this. 00:13:35.260 --> 00:13:42.760 It'll be like the bash shell, the, power shell, whatever that thing's playing music. 00:13:42.760 --> 00:13:43.400 I can't take it. 00:13:43.400 --> 00:13:45.580 But yeah, anyway, the windows, yeah. 00:13:45.580 --> 00:13:46.320 Check out windows terminal. 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:46.940 It's actually good. 00:13:46.940 --> 00:13:47.960 And Kim is right. 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:49.980 We've come a long ways, but yeah. 00:13:49.980 --> 00:13:50.300 Okay. 00:13:50.300 --> 00:13:51.020 All right. 00:13:51.020 --> 00:13:51.540 All right. 00:13:51.540 --> 00:13:52.420 Mm-hmm. 00:13:52.420 --> 00:13:53.940 You convinced me, I think. 00:13:53.940 --> 00:13:54.840 So let's try it. 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:55.980 Give it a, give it a try. 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:56.600 Give it a try. 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:57.140 All right. 00:13:57.140 --> 00:13:57.960 What's your final thing? 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.000 People should check out warp. 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:59.820 It's, it's pretty neat. 00:13:59.820 --> 00:14:00.500 I will. 00:14:00.500 --> 00:14:00.880 Yeah. 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:01.860 Oh, hold on. 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:03.180 One more important thing here. 00:14:03.180 --> 00:14:07.220 Mac only for the moment for people, but they're working on Linux and windows. 00:14:07.220 --> 00:14:10.780 So you can like sign up to get notified if you're not a Mac person. 00:14:10.780 --> 00:14:13.000 So just that caveat for now. 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:17.860 I, did you, I three, Python 3.7 end of life. 00:14:17.860 --> 00:14:19.660 And I didn't even notice. 00:14:19.660 --> 00:14:20.640 What? 00:14:20.640 --> 00:14:21.760 So. 00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:22.500 That was a good one. 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:23.780 That was one of the good ones. 00:14:23.780 --> 00:14:24.880 You can trust that one. 00:14:25.060 --> 00:14:29.560 So 3.7 end of life was in June and June 27th. 00:14:29.560 --> 00:14:31.040 no, that was the first release. 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:32.700 End of, no, end of life also. 00:14:32.700 --> 00:14:33.320 End of life. 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:34.320 6.27. 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:34.840 23. 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:35.580 Interesting. 00:14:35.580 --> 00:14:37.540 But why did I not notice it? 00:14:37.540 --> 00:14:41.840 I didn't notice it because everybody's like three, like you said, 3.7 was one of the good 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:42.040 ones. 00:14:42.040 --> 00:14:44.000 We got, we have data classes in there. 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.720 f-strings came in 3.6 and they got improved in 3.7. 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:49.680 And then they, they got improved in 3.10 again. 00:14:49.680 --> 00:14:55.280 and all sorts of stuff, but, but it is something to pay attention to, that 00:14:55.280 --> 00:14:57.860 I had noticed the first notice today. 00:14:57.860 --> 00:15:03.460 I was looking at the, VS Code announcement for the new, what was this? 00:15:03.460 --> 00:15:11.600 Python for Visual Studio Code, October, 2020 release mentions, that, the 3.7 support 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:16.860 is still, it's still probably works, but they're deprecating 3.7 in support. 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:23.880 So just to be aware, I was also surprised if it didn't work because what was removed 00:15:23.880 --> 00:15:29.560 in 3.8 that was in 3.7, like syntax wise, not functional wise. 00:15:29.560 --> 00:15:30.980 I, I can't think of anything. 00:15:30.980 --> 00:15:32.240 yeah. 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:38.440 So I, so there's a couple of projects or several projects that I'm supporting where I support 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:39.620 down to 3.7. 00:15:39.620 --> 00:15:42.140 I dropped 3.6 a while ago. 00:15:42.140 --> 00:15:46.720 but one of the things that catches me a lot, the remaining thing that catches 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.640 me, is, is annotations and specific. 00:15:50.640 --> 00:15:56.740 I want to cover like if you really want to still support 3.7, or didn't know that it was this 00:15:56.740 --> 00:15:58.660 easy, at least for the code I write. 00:15:58.660 --> 00:16:02.380 The main thing is, is I like to use union types. 00:16:02.380 --> 00:16:05.860 So, like to use this or type for unions. 00:16:05.860 --> 00:16:08.080 And this came in in 3.10. 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:13.980 However, it, I can't find this documented anywhere, but to get it to work down to 3.7, 00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:18.320 you can do, from futures from future import annotations. 00:16:18.660 --> 00:16:23.140 And we've been used to using the from future for various things for a while, but it looks 00:16:23.140 --> 00:16:27.600 like, like 3.7 might be the end of needing from future for a while. 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:28.120 I don't know. 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.940 Maybe they'll come up with something else that they're backboarding, but it doesn't look like 00:16:31.940 --> 00:16:36.580 there's anything else right now, up to 3.12 that you need to go back down. 00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:39.720 It's just, just, just annotations so far. 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:45.040 So, and I guess I want to show a little bit of an example for the annotations. 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:51.280 So, data for data classes, data classes are awesome because you can type the variable 00:16:51.280 --> 00:16:52.500 that you're in using. 00:16:52.500 --> 00:16:59.440 And, and then I often like to have it be none by default, which, so a string, it's going 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:00.780 to be a string or it's none. 00:17:00.780 --> 00:17:03.520 So the, or none is easy just to do the, or none. 00:17:03.520 --> 00:17:07.140 And I know you can do optional, but this is just visually more pleasing to me. 00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:13.060 and to get that to work down to 3.7, it's, yeah, it's just the from future important 00:17:13.060 --> 00:17:15.060 annotations and it'll work all the way down to 3.7. 00:17:15.060 --> 00:17:17.100 So it's just what I wanted to mention. 00:17:17.100 --> 00:17:24.660 and, I think that it's also good to be aware, I guess that, that, 3.7 is end 00:17:24.660 --> 00:17:29.700 of life because some of the things you depend on might start dropping support for 3.7. 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:31.340 It's fair game at this point. 00:17:31.340 --> 00:17:36.900 So, I mean, open source projects, they're a fair game to drop support for, everything 00:17:36.900 --> 00:17:38.660 below 3.12 if they want to. 00:17:38.660 --> 00:17:41.140 No one's, no one signed a contract with anyone here. 00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:42.160 They can do what they want. 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:42.560 Yeah. 00:17:42.560 --> 00:17:44.680 But it's, it's good to be aware of. 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:44.900 So. 00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:46.120 It certainly is. 00:17:46.120 --> 00:17:46.880 It certainly is. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.360 That's a cool graph you got there too. 00:17:48.360 --> 00:17:48.960 Yeah. 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.180 Yeah. 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:50.320 Is that in the, is that in the show notes? 00:17:50.320 --> 00:17:50.880 Yeah. 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.800 It's from devguide.python.org, with the versions. 00:17:54.800 --> 00:17:55.820 yeah. 00:17:55.820 --> 00:18:00.060 Christian Lederman says, walrus was introduced in 3.8. 00:18:00.060 --> 00:18:03.900 I don't know if you can do a from future import walrus. 00:18:04.040 --> 00:18:06.200 I don't think so, but it's too bad. 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.980 If you do, you have to do an emoji, not the actual word walrus, but you got to put the 00:18:09.980 --> 00:18:11.820 emoji of a walrus and then it'll work. 00:18:11.820 --> 00:18:14.700 Well, I'm waiting for like emoji operators. 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:17.440 so that'd be fun to have. 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:17.880 Yeah. 00:18:18.140 --> 00:18:22.020 Have to put not just can put, but you have to put emojis in your code. 00:18:22.020 --> 00:18:25.800 So what happens when the cat raises its paw against an integer? 00:18:25.800 --> 00:18:27.720 Oh, let me tell you, that one's really awesome. 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:28.300 Yeah. 00:18:28.300 --> 00:18:29.600 yeah. 00:18:29.600 --> 00:18:33.780 Some of those conversations like, Christian was saying that I think we're like, or I was 00:18:33.780 --> 00:18:37.160 saying, you know, what is in three, seven, that's not in three, eight. 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:38.480 And those are all true. 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:43.020 All those things like there are new things, but if you wrote three, seven code and then 00:18:43.020 --> 00:18:46.540 ran it against three, eight, it should still validate in my pie. 00:18:46.540 --> 00:18:49.060 It should still work in Python, right? 00:18:49.060 --> 00:18:54.520 There's no thing that was in three, seven that because my pie is not supporting it, it'll say, 00:18:54.520 --> 00:18:58.200 well, that used to work and it doesn't work anymore because Python is pretty awesome and 00:18:58.200 --> 00:18:58.900 stable like that. 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:03.600 There might have been, there was one point, I think it was in three, nine though, where 00:19:03.600 --> 00:19:10.260 like the asyncio co-routine decorator was removed that caused all sorts of drama for me because 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.880 some library I was using didn't use the word async. 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.520 They just used the decorators, but even that a decorator should still validate in my pie with 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:18.100 that context. 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:18.300 Right. 00:19:18.300 --> 00:19:24.560 So, yeah, I guess I want to, I'll, maybe I'll revisit my opinion of, supporting three, 00:19:24.560 --> 00:19:28.860 eight or three, seven because, so we, we, we can use the wall. 00:19:28.900 --> 00:19:33.760 Wallruss operator in three, eight, but Henry Schreiner also noticed that notes that, 00:19:33.760 --> 00:19:40.540 uh, the equal for f-strings so that you can say, like X equal and it'll print the 00:19:40.540 --> 00:19:41.040 X equal. 00:19:41.040 --> 00:19:42.620 That's super handy. 00:19:42.620 --> 00:19:43.880 yeah, it's good for debugging. 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:44.420 Yeah. 00:19:44.420 --> 00:19:48.920 And just having, having that stuff in your, in your code, like that'd be great. 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:49.360 So. 00:19:49.360 --> 00:19:49.840 Yeah. 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:52.640 And these things are super small and subtle, like the wallruss operator. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.500 I take, I took the website down with the wallruss operator once I said, I told that story 00:19:56.500 --> 00:19:56.840 before. 00:19:56.840 --> 00:19:57.420 Yeah. 00:19:57.780 --> 00:20:01.660 Like not even the main website, just, it was in a little utility, but it got parsed 00:20:01.660 --> 00:20:03.860 by the route finding thing and killed it. 00:20:03.860 --> 00:20:04.340 All right. 00:20:04.340 --> 00:20:05.540 Well, that's it for items, huh? 00:20:05.540 --> 00:20:06.620 Yeah, it is. 00:20:06.620 --> 00:20:07.280 Awesome. 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:07.880 Extras. 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.900 I got a couple since I got my screen up. 00:20:10.900 --> 00:20:16.440 just one of the examples I showed was from a new plugin that I just released, called 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:17.560 pytest Paramscope. 00:20:17.560 --> 00:20:24.060 and this allows you to, for parameterized fixtures or for parameterized tests to have 00:20:24.060 --> 00:20:29.400 a startup, a startup that goes, a setup that happens before all the parameters and a teardown 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:30.420 that happens at the end. 00:20:30.420 --> 00:20:36.480 It's still, the API is up, there's a warning here because there's the API might change 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:41.040 with respect to teardown, working on yield, yield functions for that. 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:44.600 I also, I was going to cover this as a full thing. 00:20:44.600 --> 00:20:45.140 Oh yeah. 00:20:45.140 --> 00:20:46.540 This is just sort of how you use it. 00:20:46.540 --> 00:20:48.080 You get like a setup and teardown. 00:20:48.080 --> 00:20:50.500 Oh no, this is, this is how I want to do it. 00:20:50.500 --> 00:20:52.880 This is the change that I might do of adding yield. 00:20:52.880 --> 00:21:00.540 So anyway, Simon Wilson, wrote a article called, stop defining people. 00:21:00.540 --> 00:21:01.880 No, not Simon Wilson. 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:03.880 Sorry, Josh Simmons. 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:09.160 sorry, Josh, wrote an article called, stop defining people by what they 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:10.040 are not. 00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:15.100 and he was referring to non-code contributors and I kind of agree. 00:21:15.100 --> 00:21:16.620 So I wanted to highlight this article. 00:21:16.620 --> 00:21:18.180 This is, this is great. 00:21:18.320 --> 00:21:24.620 Just basically saying all contributions are awesome and trying to, and elevating code 00:21:24.620 --> 00:21:29.360 contributor contributors above non-code contributors is just not right. 00:21:29.360 --> 00:21:30.200 So don't do that. 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:36.960 also it's just referring, I mean, if somebody only writes, just mostly helps with your 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.540 test code, you don't have to call them. 00:21:39.540 --> 00:21:42.300 I mean, you can say somebody that's contributing test code. 00:21:42.300 --> 00:21:44.160 You don't have to say, oh, that's non-code. 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:45.580 Well, that's, that's still code. 00:21:45.660 --> 00:21:46.800 But anyway, you know what I mean? 00:21:46.800 --> 00:21:50.040 people helping with documentation is great help. 00:21:50.040 --> 00:21:52.660 People helping with writing tutorials is great help. 00:21:52.660 --> 00:21:53.700 Everything is good. 00:21:53.700 --> 00:21:58.480 So anyway, sometimes it's more important to have a good example so people can get started 00:21:58.480 --> 00:21:58.900 quickly. 00:21:58.900 --> 00:21:59.700 Oh yeah. 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:02.780 And like enjoy the project rather than like one more feature, you know? 00:22:02.780 --> 00:22:03.240 Yeah. 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:09.040 And also things like, cleaning, triaging issues and answering questions and keeping, 00:22:09.040 --> 00:22:13.560 you know, making sure that all the issues are closed when their things get fixed and all 00:22:13.560 --> 00:22:15.860 that sort of stuff is, is it's tons of work. 00:22:15.860 --> 00:22:16.960 So it's great help. 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:18.440 So yeah, absolutely. 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:19.300 Do you have any extras? 00:22:19.300 --> 00:22:21.480 I got a couple quick ones here. 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:26.460 So open AI has released the beta version of their Python SDK. 00:22:26.460 --> 00:22:27.780 It's pretty exciting. 00:22:27.780 --> 00:22:35.160 So if you don't want to implement your own raw HTTP JSON parsing and hope that you got everything 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.520 right, you can just go there, start calling the functions that they write for you. 00:22:38.600 --> 00:22:40.780 And it should be going nicely. 00:22:40.780 --> 00:22:43.520 So it's still in beta, but people can check that out. 00:22:43.520 --> 00:22:44.080 That's pretty awesome. 00:22:44.080 --> 00:22:45.560 I think, was it here? 00:22:45.560 --> 00:22:46.520 I can't remember somewhere. 00:22:46.520 --> 00:22:47.400 No, it wasn't here. 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:48.480 Maybe it was on the linked article. 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.780 There was somewhere where there's a bunch of people whinging, like, why can't people just 00:22:52.780 --> 00:22:53.580 call HTTP? 00:22:53.580 --> 00:22:54.760 They're so lazy. 00:22:54.760 --> 00:22:56.060 They want a library for it. 00:22:56.060 --> 00:22:56.640 Like, you know what? 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.200 Maybe like let somebody else handle the evolution of that API. 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.280 You just call a stable Python set of functions and not worry about that. 00:23:04.280 --> 00:23:05.280 Wouldn't call that lazy. 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.140 I would call that PyPI and call it awesome. 00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:10.860 Anyway, so people are into open AI. 00:23:10.860 --> 00:23:12.320 What do you need Python for? 00:23:12.320 --> 00:23:15.180 Just call the raw C API. 00:23:15.180 --> 00:23:16.120 Exactly. 00:23:16.120 --> 00:23:20.160 Can I just do this with like a bunch of bash scripts and some curl? 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:20.640 Let's go. 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:21.180 All right. 00:23:21.180 --> 00:23:27.100 So, sad news here is ChatGPT. 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:27.560 Oh, no. 00:23:27.560 --> 00:23:28.460 Stack Overflow. 00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:30.820 Probably because partly of ChatGPT. 00:23:30.820 --> 00:23:32.240 Get that in order right there. 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:36.100 Stack Overflow is laying off 28% of their staff. 00:23:36.100 --> 00:23:37.360 It's kind of surprising, huh? 00:23:37.360 --> 00:23:37.920 Yeah. 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.560 Which turns out to be 100 to 200 people. 00:23:41.560 --> 00:23:42.420 Like a lot of people. 00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:44.880 Not like they had four people and they laid one of them off. 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:50.140 But it was really important. 00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:52.280 What exactly would you say you do here? 00:23:52.280 --> 00:23:52.820 No. 00:23:52.820 --> 00:23:57.320 I didn't know that Stack Overflow had so many people working for them, though. 00:23:57.320 --> 00:23:57.860 I know. 00:23:57.860 --> 00:24:04.680 It was founded just by Joel Spolsky and Coding Horror Guy, whose name I don't remember. 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:05.020 Anyway. 00:24:05.020 --> 00:24:06.980 But yeah, it's growing to be super, super big. 00:24:06.980 --> 00:24:11.860 And I don't know, I always sometimes wonder, like, do you really need a thousand people to run that website? 00:24:11.860 --> 00:24:14.200 I mean, maybe, but maybe you just don't. 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.400 Anyway, that's a whole different discussion. 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:25.520 But so there's some interesting conversation saying maybe this is because of ChatGPT and Google Copilot and all these other things. 00:24:25.520 --> 00:24:31.820 Like, instead of going to Stack Overflow to go, how do I connect this type of thing to that type of database? 00:24:31.820 --> 00:24:38.080 You can just ask your coding assistant or your chat buddy and you'll get a great example. 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:40.060 Oftentimes more specific, right? 00:24:40.060 --> 00:24:42.180 Like, yeah, but I'm using this version. 00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:44.680 Oh, well, if it's that version, you've got to pass this argument too. 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:45.020 Right. 00:24:45.020 --> 00:24:45.420 Thanks. 00:24:45.420 --> 00:24:46.060 Got it. 00:24:46.060 --> 00:24:46.540 You know? 00:24:46.540 --> 00:24:49.220 So this is pretty interesting. 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:57.980 Kind of odd or weird, like six months ago, Stack Overflow wrote a blog post that said, what's different about these layoffs in the tech industry? 00:24:57.980 --> 00:24:58.700 Not us. 00:24:58.700 --> 00:24:59.280 We're fine. 00:24:59.280 --> 00:25:00.160 Everyone else. 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:05.500 And then, you know, six months later, you know, go back and read your own article, sadly. 00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:09.700 So that's an interesting thing to be aware of, I guess. 00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:10.200 Yeah. 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:19.700 Yuri Silovanov just pointed out or posted on the XT that UVloop18 is here with Python 2nd. 00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:21.020 Python 3.12 support. 00:25:21.020 --> 00:25:27.680 So I was trying to use 3.12 on a couple of the Talk Python things and the websites are like, nope. 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.120 UV loop, no. 00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:35.980 aiohttp, definitely not going to work on Python 3.12, which is, I think aiohttp still doesn't work. 00:25:35.980 --> 00:25:45.400 And sadly, some rummy dependency that I have is like using that library, which itself is not being upgraded to 3.12, at least as of like a few days ago. 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.520 So this gets me halfway there, the two things that wouldn't install. 00:25:48.520 --> 00:25:49.500 One more to go. 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.000 Hanging in there for aiohttp. 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:51.600 Come on now. 00:25:51.600 --> 00:25:52.020 Yeah. 00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:52.980 Good news nonetheless. 00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:54.200 Thanks, Yuri, for doing that. 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.880 Oh, and thanks, Kim, for reminding us that it was Jeff Atwood. 00:25:57.880 --> 00:25:59.160 Yes, of course it was. 00:25:59.160 --> 00:25:59.720 Thank you, Kim. 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.560 That's the guy that went by Coding Horror. 00:26:01.560 --> 00:26:06.120 That's what happens when you have too popular of a nickname that you've given yourself, like Coding Horror. 00:26:06.120 --> 00:26:06.640 Yeah. 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.020 In your blog. 00:26:07.020 --> 00:26:07.540 Yeah. 00:26:07.540 --> 00:26:10.820 Plus that logo or icon that he's got. 00:26:10.820 --> 00:26:12.500 I can just see it in my head. 00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:13.100 Yeah, too. 00:26:13.100 --> 00:26:13.640 I can't. 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:14.520 Like the hair on fire. 00:26:14.520 --> 00:26:14.860 Yeah. 00:26:14.860 --> 00:26:15.700 Developer picture. 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:15.940 Yep. 00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:16.360 Yeah. 00:26:16.600 --> 00:26:16.840 All right. 00:26:16.840 --> 00:26:18.640 Those are all my extras that I got for now. 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.120 Yeah. 00:26:20.120 --> 00:26:21.000 Ready for a joke? 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:21.860 I am. 00:26:21.860 --> 00:26:24.160 We might even have two jokes, but we'll see about that. 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.380 Yeah, I've got one I wanted to share also. 00:26:25.380 --> 00:26:26.020 All right. 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.900 So this one comes from Command Line Magic, but was pointed out to us by Lizzie. 00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:32.660 I said, I love it. 00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:33.220 Hey, I'm Kennedy. 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:34.160 Maybe for the show. 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:39.860 And the Command Line Magic says, I've always read that global variables are bad. 00:26:39.860 --> 00:26:41.340 So this is the Star Trek thing. 00:26:41.340 --> 00:26:42.460 And can I make it bigger? 00:26:42.460 --> 00:26:42.720 Yes. 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:49.220 The Star Trek thing shows, I can't remember this character's name, this woman scientist on a shuttle. 00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:50.640 This is all from Star Trek. 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:57.060 And they're like going right through the near the edge of the sun to do some studying. 00:26:57.060 --> 00:27:01.380 And she wants to be real careful to make sure that, you know, this ship doesn't melt. 00:27:01.380 --> 00:27:05.740 So she says, computer, notify me if temperatures get too hot. 00:27:05.740 --> 00:27:06.540 Beep, beep. 00:27:06.540 --> 00:27:08.460 Please define hot, says the computer. 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:10.320 Let's say 1.9 million Kelvin. 00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:10.840 Okay. 00:27:10.840 --> 00:27:11.280 Fair. 00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:18.500 Later, Captain Picard is at the like the little food making thing, you know, that materializes food. 00:27:18.500 --> 00:27:20.840 It says, tea, Earl Grey, hot. 00:27:20.840 --> 00:27:22.080 It just melts. 00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:26.920 It just like, yeah, sets it at 1.9 million Kelvin in his captain's quarters. 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:28.320 Yeah, that's awesome. 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:29.300 Isn't that good? 00:27:29.300 --> 00:27:30.620 Yeah, I like it. 00:27:30.620 --> 00:27:31.260 Yeah. 00:27:31.260 --> 00:27:31.880 A little too hot. 00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:32.400 Somebody should test this. 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:33.180 Yeah, a little too hot. 00:27:33.180 --> 00:27:35.080 Maybe that tea was real hot. 00:27:35.080 --> 00:27:35.520 Yeah. 00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:36.360 All right. 00:27:36.360 --> 00:27:36.920 What's your joke? 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:42.740 So my daughter shared this with me and I just like, I haven't stopped giggling about 00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:42.920 it. 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.420 So did you, have you, you've been to the Oregon Zoo, right? 00:27:46.420 --> 00:27:46.900 Yes. 00:27:46.900 --> 00:27:47.340 Yeah. 00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:49.640 Did you, do you know there's a new exhibit there? 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:51.140 Ah, no. 00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:53.040 It's just a baguette in a cage. 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:53.740 Oh. 00:27:53.740 --> 00:27:55.100 It's bred in captivity. 00:27:55.100 --> 00:27:56.960 Oh my gosh. 00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:58.220 Bred in captivity. 00:27:58.220 --> 00:27:59.920 Yeah. 00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:00.840 That's hard to do. 00:28:00.840 --> 00:28:04.000 You know, a lot of times you try, but it just doesn't happen, does it? 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:04.960 I guess they pulled it off. 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:05.360 Yeah. 00:28:05.360 --> 00:28:06.740 Awesome. 00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:06.820 So. 00:28:06.820 --> 00:28:08.800 This bad, bad dad joke. 00:28:08.800 --> 00:28:10.820 Those are very bad dad jokes. 00:28:10.820 --> 00:28:12.680 But I was just thinking about going to the zoo. 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.540 I haven't been there since maybe a year. 00:28:14.540 --> 00:28:16.580 I was thinking about taking my daughter back there. 00:28:16.580 --> 00:28:16.780 So. 00:28:16.780 --> 00:28:20.500 What's weird is we, we almost always go to zoo lights. 00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:21.140 So. 00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:21.360 Yeah. 00:28:21.360 --> 00:28:27.060 But I, so I see a lot of animals, but they're all in, they're all in lights instead of actual, 00:28:27.060 --> 00:28:28.200 the actual animals. 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:28.700 Exactly. 00:28:28.700 --> 00:28:29.720 We need to go. 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:30.080 Yeah. 00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:34.020 Just put them on the wall and have them flashing for Christmas. 00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:34.520 That's right. 00:28:34.520 --> 00:28:34.860 Yeah. 00:28:34.860 --> 00:28:36.700 I actually, I really appreciate. 00:28:36.700 --> 00:28:45.040 During COVID, they like started doing the drive-through zoo lights and they still do it like partway. 00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:48.020 So you can do drive through for a couple of days or something. 00:28:48.020 --> 00:28:48.820 And then they switched. 00:28:48.820 --> 00:28:49.160 Okay. 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:49.800 The walking. 00:28:49.800 --> 00:28:51.020 I like driving through. 00:28:51.020 --> 00:28:51.480 It's nice. 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:51.880 So. 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:52.260 Yeah. 00:28:52.260 --> 00:28:52.880 It was nice. 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.680 Definitely nice. 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:54.660 All right. 00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:56.500 Well, we're coming up on the end of the year. 00:28:56.500 --> 00:28:58.980 So we'll have to get a report on the zoo lights. 00:28:58.980 --> 00:28:59.540 Yeah. 00:28:59.540 --> 00:29:00.500 All right. 00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:02.220 And the bread and captivity bread. 00:29:02.220 --> 00:29:02.600 Bread. 00:29:02.600 --> 00:29:03.080 Bread. 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:04.160 Bye. 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:04.920 All right.